I know you asked for a general reply from other members of this forum but as the founder I would like the chance to personally address this issue from my stand point.
Nyarlathotep wrote:I would really like to get some idea of what the members of OA think about the council's decesion to expand the KN campaign beyond Kaos and attack anyone who was a member of KN.
This campaign originally targeted four capitals held by kaos, kapers, bubba and nick2500cd. In order to conquer the capitals the perimeter needed to be breached. This in itself targeted innocent members of Kaotic_Nature. We also notified members of K_N including yourself as to our intentions 24 hrs in advance in effort to minimize the casualties of the operation. After all four capitals were secured and their perimeters guarded by members of our strike team a meeting was called at which time kaos was ordered to disban his alliance or they would be considered accessories to the charges brought on kaos. We informed kaos that if he would immediately disban his alliance we would call a cease fire and begin to return the properties of the innocent victims. He could defend himself against the charges and we would then decide if he was a suitable leader and could re-establish an allaince or if he is guilty to the crimes he has been charged with. Kaos chose not to disban his alliance.
During this cease fire I personally Handed over my alliance so I could join K_N in order to Bring the charges against kaos to the attention of the members of his alliance and answer whatever questions I could. Some players were cordial others were not and is understood. I answered what questions I could and directed members of the alliance to visit the forum where they could view the charges that have been filed and decide for themselves where they stood. As the Q&A session was becoming more of a threatening heated situation along with personal threats from K_N members I received a message that Gank was being attacked at dhumm state capital from two seperate K_N members.
At this point it was decided that all K_N forts were a potential threat to the dragon faction. We also knew that we could always return the properties to the members of K_N if that party could be cleared of the charges associated with kaos. We immediately posted a reach out thread on the home page of this forum in order to help the innocent parties and most of the forts have currently been returned.
Nyarlathotep wrote:
This organization exists in large part to reduce Dragon on Dragon violence yet this was one of the largest such attacks in Dragon history and against a group of people who were neither troublemakers nor phoenix sympathizers.
This organization was founded to be a gathering where all dragon leaders could come together to create relationships, prevent DvD, and progress towards the destruction of the phoenix. We have prevented countless dragon on dragon wars, conquered both Phoenix Capitals (go ninjaprawnz and dc!) Created udder turmoil in birdland (Huge props to Izzyboo and Gank) and formed a stronghold of leaders from multitudes of alliances in our faction. Our intent is clear that we act on the best interests of our fellow dragons.
There is no doubt that this has been the largest scale battle in pe history. It also being the first of its size has opened the opportunity for us as a faction to learn from, build a tighter faction bond and improve on our system.
I agree that there were mistakes made in our execution and I think I can speak on behalf of all the parties that were involved when I say that I know that we will learn from the mistakes made and make changes in order to create a more equal union amongst alliances and we will continue to focus on the progression of our faction.
Nyarlathotep wrote:
If a majority of you think this was the correct course of action then I will not push for changes. But should a large number of people think this was not a good course of action then I think we all need to examine how we can prevent this from happening in the future.
We welcome change. We have opened this forum up for all dragons. We have done this in order teach, learn, share, to create change and prevent any further division amongst our faction. We will also bring matters to the attention of all commanders who will participate in this movement before future operations of this scale are executed. We have opened up this forum and have extended the option to review and help to refine the practices and guidelines we have been creating since the inception of this guild. We do this in an effort to find excellence and unite us all.
Nyarlathotep wrote:
The cost has been huge not just in troops and amo's and heath but also in dragon to dragon goodwill and trust in OA. I would like to applaud the recent changes to Dragon law regarding presenting accusations to the accused before condemning them. However last time I checked the rules of engagement included a stipulation that if a commander attacks another dragon than the entire alliance becomes a valid target, which is in the same vein as this recent action. Perhaps it is time to reconsider that stipulation.
I know I have personally learned something from this conflict, and should KN ever be attacked by a dragon commander I will see to it that any members of the oppossing alliance who have not atttacked will be left out of the conflict.
I agree fully with you that the commander vs commander stipulation needs to be refined. This would be an excellent way to start to gather the opinions of all the dragon alliances and bring them here together in order to discuss a law that has a direct effect on dragons as a united entity. I will be glad to create a thread where we can begin to explore this, I think your idea that indemnifies players who have not attacked and think we could grow of of that point.
In closing I know that finding a common ground, creating unity and progressing our faction needs to be our main focus.
Nyarlathotep wrote:
Clearly it was the majority opinion of the council members so there isnt much point in them posting but I wonder about the rest of you?
I felt that since I have spent hundreds upon hundreds of hours trying to create a place inside this forum where dragons can come together, share ideas, build relationships and establish trust that I would provide my perspective so that everyone can see where it is I as a dragon truely stand.
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